(06-23-2022, 07:40 AM)freeloader Wrote: In at least a couple of posts they have referenced their being no verification that ENEB, as an institution, is equivalent to a regionally accredited American college/university. That’s not what foreign transcript evaluators do. They would not provide an evaluation that says that Oxford, the University of Toronto, or the Sorbonne is equivalent to a regionally accredited institution. They likely would say that their degrees are equivalent to their US counterparts, but that, evidently, isn’t sufficient for Dumber.
I think that's what he's misunderstanding and can't get past. As I pointed out earlier, evaluators sometimes reference only the parent institution in an evaluation, not the teaching school if the parent institution awards a signed diploma like Isabel does. ECE evaluates the exact same way and it does with this same program. It's not a mistake, it's an intentional practice with some evaluators as I've learned from reading loose evaluations on the net (mostly of propios since that sparked my interest the most).
Adding onto that, it's common for evaluations to actually say whether the institution is viewed as RA or not by the evaluator. In the Validential evaluation for instance, it says:
Program Type: Graduate Program from a Regionally Accredited Institution
^ This is common. They tell you right off the bat what they think of the degree program and the institution. Sometimes it can say "Undergraduate Program from a Regionally Accredited Institution" similar to ECE's written decision if the evaluator views your program that way. Further, your actual credential in the summary field may be deemed differently by the evaluator based on your grades and some other factors.
Then under Evaluation Summary: Michael holds the U.S. equivalent of a Master of Business Administration awarded by Regionally Accredited Universities in the United States
If Dumber absolutely positively NEEEEEEEEDS it to say "ENEB", well, that's just too bad, it's not going to. There is no "gray area" either, not anymore, that's over, we've long since reached the understanding phase of this matter. What's happening is crystal clear and we've already gone over this many times before. Evaluators often look at it this way: the University oversees the program and awards its own signed diploma, therefore we evaluate the University who oversees the program and awards its own signed diploma. And, it changes nothing. These evaluations are the result of ENEB programs, we know that, that's obvious, and to debate against that would be trolling at this point.
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Anyone who has such an evaluation from ECE, this place or otherwise, has nothing whatsoever to worry about, it's legit, there won't be any "controversy" or "needing to explain yourself for the rest of your career" or other baloney that's been said. The people who you need to understand will understand it the way any other foreign degree is understood with an evaluation, and you should ignore the complete and utter nonsense (lol) that's been going on in this thread.
As far as I'm concerned, this debate--which was already settled and over a long time ago--is still over. The need by some to keep creating a problem where no problem exists, or debate against what's already been long settled is just plain bizarre. Interesting, but totally bizarre. Personally, I couldn't care less whether a person does the program, doesn't do the program, loves it, or hates it. But the information needs to be accurate, that's what we're supposed to be here for, and constantly inventing problems that don't actually exist in reality is not being accurate in the least bit.


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