ENEB Master Thread

[eLearner]

When people say legitimate degree in the US, they at minimum mean accredited. There are very limited situations where anyone on this board would even think about recommending a non-accredited US institution.

This is a great illustration of my earlier point about the mental gymnastics that are done in regards to ENEB.

There are plenty of private training, non-accredited MOOCs, and and other skills courses we would recommend. But we don't pretend they are anything that they are not.

Here in the US accredited does mean legitimate unless it is an accreditation mill.  However, there are situations where an institution is pre-accredited or state-authorized.  The federal government recognizes pre-accredited universities and degrees for employment.   A non-accredited status from a foreign credential evaluation could mean state-authorized or pre-accredited in a vast majority of cases.  A diploma mill would be a downright "no recognition".  Degrees of pre-accredited or state-authorized status may still be accepted by schools and/or employers.

Non-accredited and diploma mill are not the same. The non-accredited (state approved/authorized) degree is a lot like the propio as far as limitations and utilization because if it is a recognized educational institution by the state with no accreditation, you could still use it in some cases based on that particular state in the same fields as Spain with the Propio.  Only difference is the perception from one entity to another.

This is in no way a reason to pursue a degree that is non-accredited or recommend one that is non-accredited.   My point is non-accredited degrees that are state-authorized or pre-accredited are legitimate and are not necessarily worthless.

Although I agree with you, unfortunately, depending on who you ask this changes. Some believe that it's only legitimate if it's regionally accredited, so out the window goes any nationally accredited or unaccredited programs. That's complete nonsense of course, but there are people who believe that.

I don't really understand the debate on this now though given all of the known information we have. With any foreign degree, if a person wants recognition from a U.S. educational institution or state board, they're going to need a positive foreign degree evaluation and those outcomes can vary. With the school in question, we have known outcomes. There is nothing more to really debate on at this point:

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